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Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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So, as mentioned in other posts, I am currently on the cusp of rebuilding the FJ1100 I picked up from Mixerman.<br /><br />The chain went on him and cracked the case around the inner sprocket. Needless to say, the entire upper case needs to be replaced. I'm picking up a case this weekend and taking the guts / heads / tranny innards out of mine and making a good motor in the end.<br /><br />My question is this:<br /><br />The motor I have has well over 150000 kms on 'er. Mixerman said she was running great when the chain blew but she was a bit long in the tooth. Since I basically have to take this thing apart to nothing a rebuild it again, I'm wondering what kind of stuff I should do while I'm in there.<br /><br />For example, since she has miles on it, I'm thinking I should definitely replace the cam chain while I'm in there. Also thinking of reseating the valves - that sort of thing...<br /><br />Since I'm stripping it, I wanna do all that I can to avoid future problems. Things like oil pump, bearings etc...what should I be looking at doing?<br /><br />Any information will be appreciated.
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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Bearings, seals and chains are relatively cheap - with that kind of mileage on the bike, I'd be really tempted to replace all bearings, chains and seals including the ones inside pumps, alternators, starters, etc. Most of the cost of an engine rebuild is labour - ripping it apart a month after a rebuild is something you want to avoid. Check the pricing on the wear parts - sometimes its not worth the cost to just get the wear item - replace the whole part it goes into. For example, a bearing on a starter motor might cost $30 and a rebuilt starter might cost $40. I'd also be taking a real close look at the tolerances on all your moving parts, especially the values and pistons and shaft. Remember when you button it back up, you'll likely have a combination of new and used parts in it and the different tolerances can cause unexpected wear points. In addition, I'd be browsing some FJ1100 web sites and see what the members have reported as typical engine problem items - every bike has their own unique set. For example, the first generation HD Twin Cam bikes had a problem with cam bearings so even if the bearing looked okay in one of these bikes, I'd replace it as a matter of course if I was rebuilding the engine and I knew that it still had the original bearing in it. So if the FJ1100 web sites report problems with cams, values, or whatever, pay real close attention to those parts and replace as economics allow. Also, see what is normally replaced on high mileage engines on the website. I'd also invest in a service manual for the bike and make sure I had a good torque wrench. Having bolts pull out 'cause you've over tightened them to the point of failure is not fun. Finally, when it is all back together, remember to break it in gently as the new and used parts have to reseat themselves. Once the break in period is over, change the oil, pay attention to any metal flakes in the oil filter and then have some fun. Don't forget to look at any wires for cracks, etc and replace those as well.
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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Good advice James...I'll definitely be taking my time making sure that I do everything I can to avoid future issues. I have a running bike now so I'm in no real hurry to get this done.<br /><br />I do have a torque wrench (although it's the clicker kind, I've heard lately that they're not the best but they must be better than nothing) and I picked up a brand new Clymer manual for it and I also have the original Yamaha microfiche on PDF...so I think I'm good to go there.<br /><br />When you talk about tolerances, what do you mean exactly? I mean, how do I test the tolerances etc.<br /><br />When I have this motor stripped down, I may be inclined to invite a few guys over to take a gander and check if they can see anything that looks like it needs work etc.<br /><br />The only motor I've every stripped and rebuilt was a 350 in high school. I'm pretty mechanically inclined, so I think with the manuals I have and the support of the forums out there - I'll have a strong drivetrain in the end.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I have yet to find a decent FJ site but I'll keep looking...
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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By tolerances I mean spacing between parts. Rings and cylinder walls, end play of bearings, value shim heights, etc. You are going to have new and used in there so the old settings may not work anymore. For example, lets say the values checked out as perfectly fine - no new shims required - everything is within tolerance. If you then replace the cam, even though the values were okay prior to that - its almost a guarantee that with the new part, the tolerances would be out and you'd need to adjust the shims. So as you replace things like water pumps, cams, chains, etc. parts that previously were within spec AND THEIR DEPENDENT PARTS now need to be checked again. <br /><br />I'll see if anyone knows of a good FJ site.
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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Dude dropped off the case today :rockon:
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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Great stuff....now the fun begins....
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Re: Rebuilding a motor question 2 Years, 6 Months ago
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The best FJ site I've found is a Yahoo group - seem like decent folk and knowledgeable about the bike so I should be set but keep yours ears open for any larger ones out there.<br /><br />I think I may start another thread in the Tech Section and post what I'm doing with the FJ as I go. Kind of like a walkthrough as I rebuild the motor. I think it may serve others as a good reference in the future for folks thinking about taking this on...
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